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From the original read-out:

The CIA As Organized Crime part 1
https://youtu.be/cP15Ehx1yvI

The following is an explosive expose, not only of the CIA, but what America really is and who we are as Americans. This is the amazing story about how Doug Valentine gained access to top officials in the CIA and CIA operatives who revealed their secrets and explained the inner workings of the CIA.

It is shocking and terrifying because it operates outside the laws of the United States, with the approval of the U.S. Congress, the President, and the Judicial Branch.

This is Part 1 of a two part interview that paints the CIA as an organized crime syndicate serving the needs of the Capitalist Class.

Published on 14 May 2020

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[Music] it's taken me 30 years of study without
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myself being a CIA officer to try to understand how the CIA operates you have
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to read dozens and dozens of books I mean it takes years of study to understand how the CIA operates so it's
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virtually impossible to explain it in a few minutes but they do the CIA is
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organized in a couple of what you know in a particular way that allows it to do
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things that it does first of all it's it
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operates outside the laws of the United States that Congress has given the CIA
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the right to commit crimes in foreign countries and also not to be prosecuted
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for those crimes in the United States so the entire judicial system in the United
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States has been structured to allow the CIA to do these things it's not that the
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you know a lot of people frequently refer to the CIA as somehow being a rogue agency or doing things without
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approval but the CIA everything it does is approved by Congress and the
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executive and the Supreme Court it has the complete backing of the three
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branches of the United States government no other no law enforcement branch in the United States including the FBI can
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prosecute the CIA for any crimes that it is committed so you have to understand
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where what the CIA's mandate is it is given a mandate to do these things it is allowed to do these things you just
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can't know about the things that it does in it's wrapped in secrecy and the first
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two criteria that the CIA files is that when it considers launching an operation
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that operation has to meet two criteria first of all it has to have some intelligence potential it has to be you
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know be provide substance to the cia's mill you
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know that's the house I had some some potential to do something that's of
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importance to the CIA the second criterion it has to be absolutely deniable if you it can never be found
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out or discovered so the CIA doesn't deuce do anything unless it can deny it
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and how it goes about denying and structuring its operations so that they
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are deniable is like the first thing yet they have to understand and it does it
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through its relationships with all the other branches of government in the
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United States the CIA CIA officers do not walk around presenting themselves to
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people overseas as CIA officers they present themselves as State Department officers or military officers or as
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private businessmen they all operate undercover so that everything that they do is deniable and of course the
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captains of the media industry all the major publishers all the major editors
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all the major correspondents are aware of this and they go along with it because you have to keep it secret
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[Music]
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I'm Doug Valentine and I'm the author of a book titled the CIA as organized crime
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how illegal operations corrupt America and the world the CIA created the
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Phoenix program in South Vietnam in the summer of 1967 some senior CIA officers
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were asked to create a by the White House to create a general staff for
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pacification to handle the pacification of of South Vietnam the military was
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handling was taking care of the main force war but the CIA and the White
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House felt that they needed to attack what was called the Vietcong infrastructure the managers of the
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insurgency the civilians who were were giving political direction to the
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insurgents in South Vietnam these people were civilians so the it was so the CIA was given the job because
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the military by law is not allowed to target civilians the CIA got the job for
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creating and managing the CIA program the the Phoenix program because it was
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targeting the civilian leadership of the insurgency in South Vietnam and it was felt in order to win the war those
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people how to be what was called neutralized so the Redux program was set up to go
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after those people there were already about 25 programs in place some of them
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run by the military some of them run by the CIA many of them being run by the South Vietnamese police and military
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which were already targeting this group of civilians as part of just traditional
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military intelligence work and CIA work what the Phoenix program did was set up
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a Center in Saigon centers in every Corps at every province in every
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province and in every district these were called intelligence operations
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coordinating centers ionx which were part of this emanating from this Phoenix
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Center in south vietnam and each one of these centers at the district province core
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and national level coordinated these 25 programs and agencies that were already
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involved so that it it became a concerted effort on the direction of the
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CIA there were Phoenix's had two tiers the
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upper level teal tier which was the real concern of the CIA was to target the
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leadership of the Vietcong insurgency these are leaders so using standard
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intelligence programs informants interrogations largely and as well as
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you know electronic intercepts the CIA through the Phoenix program and all the
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programs that coordinated set out to identify first of all who the leaders of
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the insurgency were and its first goal was to turn these people into double
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agents to recruit them in place so that they would then spy become spies within the insurgency and tell the CIA well
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what the what the plans and goals of the insurgency were so they would know ahead of the time so they would know where
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they were gonna launch a strike or a paramilitary operation or where they had
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agent nets the the Vietcong had agent Nets inside all throughout the
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government and they wanted to to find out where these agent Nets were so at the very highest level it was an
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intelligence operation designed to identify and penetrate these intelligence operations that the
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Vietcong were running but and there's a long way and many stages from that going
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from that very top level down to the villages where the Vietcong also had
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operations an agent nets set up so at the same time that they were trying to identify the leaders they were also
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trying to identify the agents of the insurgency who were inside the villages
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at the very villa at the village the very bottom level and this was something that was just as important but it's at
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the very far end of the spectrum and at that level in order to
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once agents had been identified in at the village level if that village was if
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those people existed in a village that was in enemy controlled territory then
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the Phoenix people would call in a b-52 to bomb them and they would just bomb that village or they would send an
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assassination teams that were paramilitary CIA assassination teams that would sneak into the village at
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night and assassinate these people it was you know dangerous stuff to do because it was an enemy territory and in
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the process of doing that they the CIA and the military also waged psychological warfare against these
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villages in which all sorts of terrible things occurred but but largely they
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they tried through propaganda and psychological operations to convince the
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villagers not to support these agents in the villages and that basically amounted
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to terrifying anybody who supported the Vietcong and it was open season on
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anybody who was suspected of supporting the Vietcong so at the very basic level
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bottom level at the village the idea was to terrify people through the Phoenix
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program and make them not support these agents at the at the ground level at the top level the top tier the idea was to
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keep these people in place to keep the agent networks in place so that they could be penetrated and so that the CIA
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would know what their plans and objectives were and and in that sense they were actually keeping the Vietcong
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insurgency in place so at the top the top-level goal directly contradicted the
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very bottom level goal but it was rationalized on the point of view that you know I mean the senior level people
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were important people whereas the villagers were non entities and it was
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okay to to slaughter and terrify them so was an aberration I mean this kind of
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thing the wholesale murdering of entire villages is part of the Phoenix program
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and also was it part of the Army's program well like I said all these
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things were already in place I mean these things were already being done before Phoenix was set up the military
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certainly wanted to know had certainly had agents in enemy villages because
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they wanted to know when the unser gence were going to a staged an attack and that's what the tactical military
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intelligence is designed to determine where the enemy is and where they're
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going to be so that you can launch an attack against them and if they thought that a village contained enemy soldiers
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well then it would turn into me lie they would just send in a couple of companies and men and they would wipe out
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everybody in that village or they would send you know a b-52 or bombers had just
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bombed the village which was often the way that they had done it but by 1967
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when the Phoenix program was and was instituted they had realized that these
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kinds of really horrific wiping out everybody in the village operations were
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doing nothing to win the hearts of the minds of the villagers to support the government so Phoenix was implemented as
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a way to whenever possible bypass these kind of large military operations that
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that you know utterly destroyed villages and they tried to terrorize them on a
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more psychological basis a more psychological warfare basis they would
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bring them in to interrogation centers they would prevent them from getting jobs you know they would there's just a
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million different ways to to terrorize people just like people in the United States are oftentimes afraid to get
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involved in political action because they're afraid if their bosses know they'll lose their job so it's the same
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thing the CIA could tell somebody you know who worked at a school well you know this guy supports the Vietcong now
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you're fired now you got no job and now you're poor you know so there's just a million to terrorize people and they did them
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all and it was that's what the fear the Phoenix program was designed to do but again at the upper tier level it was
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designed to keep the agent nets and the agents and the managers in place so that
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they could be penetrated their operations could be penetrated so that they could be turned into secret agents
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themselves I had written a book about my father's experiences in world war ii
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called the hotel Tacloban I had always wanted to write a book and that book was
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successfully written and published in in 1984 and after that I didn't know what I
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wanted to do and I went and I started helping a friend build a house in New Hampshire and while I was helping him
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build the house one of the other guys that was helping out was a Vietnam veteran he'd be an Army Ranger and he
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made a crack to me oh so you're one of those writers had on it's only gonna write one book and I I was offended by
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that and I thought well okay I'll write a second book and then people can't say that anymore and I didn't know what I wanted to write
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about but I decided to write about the the Vietnam War and because my father
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the book about my father involved a military secret and something that was
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kept secret I wanted to write about a part of the Vietnam War that nobody had
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written about before that was considered secret and so I went to the local VA
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hospital in New Hampshire and I asked the director of the VA center of this VA
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hospital if there was a part of the fee the Vietnam War that nobody had written about and it was very very secret and he
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said yeah the Phoenix program and I said what's that and he said well there's a guy here who was in Special Forces
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who's a resident permanent resident of the hospital and he was in the Phoenix
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program and I'll get him to talk to you and anyway so a couple of days went by
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and he called me up and he said this the guy won't talk to you he's afraid that if he talks to you about the Phoenix
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program he'll lose his VA benefits and that just spurred me to think well
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why would an American soldier who's been obviously you know damaged by his
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service for the country be afraid about talking about what he did and that got
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me interested in the future program and I started reading up about it and I learned right away that William Colby
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who was a former director of the CIA had been the individual most closely
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associated with the Phoenix program Colby had run the program in Vietnam for
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a couple years and he had testified to Congress in 1970 and 1971 about the
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Phoenix program and he had been very kind in his in his words about the
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Phoenix program so not being a academic
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and not being someone who had come up through the traditional journalistic
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career path I sent a copy of my book the hotel talk clove into Colby and asked
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him if he'd give me an interview about the Phoenix program to my surprise he called up on the phone and said yeah
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come on down let's talk and first I met him at his law office in Washington DC
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and that was in 1984 and I outlined what I wanted to do and he agreed and then
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later on I met him again at his home in Georgetown and we did a taped interview
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and Colby liked my idea I told him I wanted to demystify the Phoenix program
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and I wanted to write about it I was a bureaucratic program and he liked that approach and he said he would help me
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and he would introduce me and he started introducing me to some of the senior CIA officers that had managed to senior the
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Phoenix program and and the programs that are coordinated and to my surprise pretty soon I was knee-deep in CIA
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officers who were telling me everything that was previously classified about the
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Phoenix program because Colby had sent me to him and you know that just started a Duvall rolling William Colby had been
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in the OSS the Office of Strategic Services in World War two he had parachuted into
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France behind enemy lines and created an agent networked with the French
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Resistance one of his comrades from the OSS a guy named Evan Parker who was
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served in Burma in World War two in a
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different capacity Parker had been an interrogator in Burma with the OSS in
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World War two has been a close friend of Kolby's and so when the Phoenix program
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was created colby arranged for this fella evan parker to become the first senior
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director of the Phoenix program he parked around the Phoenix Directorate in
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Saigon starting in July of 1967 Parker and Colby had both entered the CIA when
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it was created they had worked together at that point for 20 years they were very close friends and Colby wanted a
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trusted you know person someone he could trust in that in the position of Phoenix
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director and so he pointed arrange for Parker to get the job and I knew that
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Parker had been first the first director and I said to Colby can you set me up with in an interview with Parker and he
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said yeah and he called up Evan Parker and he said well you know I'm gonna send this guy Doug Valentine over to to talk
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to you and would you please talk to him so that happened very early and it was
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one of the first interviews I did Parker was living in I think Rockville Maryland
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that's a time and I went down to see him we arranged a time you know and he had
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this nice suburban house nothing special you know but a nice house well-appointed he had reaching that recently had a
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stroke he was kind of Vonk Euler tall
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taller I'm 6 feet tall he was probably an inch taller than me fair skinned
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nice-looking guy thinning hair and he invited me indoors and we went up
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to his study which was on the second floor where he had a lot of books about
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Welch poetry and poetry and and I had been an English Lit student in college
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and I had studied a little bit about Welch poetry and and Parker and I just
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sat there in his study for an hour and just talked about poetry and things that
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were related to Welch history and stuff like that and and he got very comfortable with me he liked the way I
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looked a very waspy looking you know on white anglo-saxon Protestant know very
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courteous as we're not you know a nice suit and tie and after talking for about
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an hour he said I'm gonna go downstairs and I'm gonna make us some tea and bring
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up some cookies I'll be back in about 15 minutes and there was a little coffee
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table in between us and on that coffee table was a bunch of documents which I
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had sort of been eyeballing the entire time that we were talking and I was certainly aware that it was there and
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Parker said so I'll be back in about 15 minutes and he winked and he went downstairs and I opened the top document
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that was sitting on that coffee table and it was a roster of all the people who were in the original Phoenix
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directory all the Pihl military people by name and rank and of course the CIA
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people were civilians and it just had it was about forty five names forty or
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forty-five names and I just furiously wrote them down in my notebook with any kind of the data that identified them
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and about 15 minutes later Parker yelled from downstairs dog the tea's ready
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I'm coming up and so I you know put my
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notebook away and closed that closed his file and just sat back and he came up with a big smile on his face and put the
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team cookies down and we just considered started talking about Phoenix so when I
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got home I immediately started and this is like 1984-85 trying to find to locate
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these people so there were military stud books which I could use but mostly ended
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up in the library just going through the phone books and looking for the names and seeing if I could find people and
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one of the people I found was a guy named I can't remember his name off the
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top of my head but I contacted him he'd been in the original Phoenix Directorate
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he was an army colonel at the time and he said you don't want to talk to me you
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know I can tell you certain things about the Phoenix program but the guy you want to talk to is tally-hawk impor full name
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julius Tolia Sock'em poro who had been also a world war ii veteran and was a
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very senior at that time CIA adviser who worked with people in the Phoenix
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program in fact the office that Evan Parker moved into when the Phoenix
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program was created was an office that had been occupied by tally-hawk poro so
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Parker had pushed a compar out of his office and aunt Ollie's office had been
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involved in the same kind of operations that the Phoenix program was involved in
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so Sophie Tolley had felt kind of displaced by the Phoenix program and he
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was sort of a lifelong enemy of Colby and Parker he'd been in the CIA since
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the Korean War he'd served in Nam for the CIA for many
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years in Italy from 1958 until 1965 and when he was assigned to Vietnam in 1966
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he became an adviser to a man named General de Winne luan and LaJuan was the
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head of both the South via cell Vietnamese central intelligence organization it's CIA its military
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security service and it's national police force so telling you everybody across the board he knew all the majors
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Vietnamese players and he knew how they felt about the Phoenix program and Tully
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was a person who was like a counter counterpoint to everything that Colby
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and Parker said to me he was a person that I would go to and I say so what really happened Tully until he would
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tell me what the the Vietnamese were thinking he introduced me to a senior Vietnamese officials who've been
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involved in their branch of the the Phoenix program and I got the whole different perspective from Tully and he
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became you know really the person that was my rabbi the person that I could
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trust for honest answers about what the CIA was really doing well in a lot of
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ways I mean it didn't have any other Glaus you really have to get into the
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details of reading the Phoenix program book in order to see what he was saying and how and how what he would say would
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would would expand on what they were saying and and and for example that when
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the CIA created the Phoenix program the
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Vietnamese objected to it I mean they thought it was going to that the CIA was
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going to use it against them members of the South Vietnamese government okay
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they saw it as a threat to their national sovereignty and the CIA implemented the Phoenix program over the
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objections of the senior South Vietnamese police officials like like
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this guy luan I mean they did not want it they they did not want the CIA being
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that deeply involved in espionage and intelligence operations which they were
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they had been involved with for decades and which they had set up themselves and
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so they resented the CIA taking over all these operations
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and telling them what to do but the CIA went ahead and it implemented the the the Phoenix program over the objections
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of these people and Talia Kanpur explained to me why that was and he also
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introduced me to the guy who read ran
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was the director of the South Vietnamese special branch of the police which was
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the the branch of the South Vietnamese government that was most deeply involved
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in Phoenix a guy named wind mount and Tolly
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introduced me to mal and I had a lot of conversations with now and now explain to me the Vietnamese perspective and
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what the Vietnamese were thinking about the Phoenix program which in many cases contradicted directly the propaganda and
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the public affairs statements that the CIA and the Americans were making about
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Phoenix so I was able to get tremendous insights and and at the same time that I
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was interviewing all these CIA officers you have to remember they were giving me
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in many cases the company line and I would then talk to Kali and I would go
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back and I would do a second interview with them and I would say but what about this what about that what about this and
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they would be wondering well how did this you know how do you know about that but they would have to answer honestly
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and that's how you know so I got a Ratatat going and a lot of that was due to Tully having some resentments having
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a lot of resentments about the wheat the way the CIA conducted itself in South
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Vietnam and the way Ram roughshod over the sensibilities of the South
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Vietnamese including the senior South Vietnamese / police officers I didn't
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follow the traditional path of a person who's going to make a career out of
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being in that in the media I didn't go to Columbia Journalism school journalism
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or you know I wasn't an academic who taught I was a guy who came out of
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nowhere and coldy liked me and started introducing me to the senior cia people who eventually thought that I was
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a CIA officer myself but Colby had sent me and and so they told me their secrets
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a traditional journalist take somebody
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like Morley Safer who was a major correspondent in Vietnam he would know
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who the who senior CIA officers are in South Vietnam and he would go talk with
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them the New York Times would arrange for for a guy like safer to go talk to a
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senior CIA officer on background off the
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books and and he would tell this guy say for what the CIA was generally up to and
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what it was generally doing and then that would help this guy safer put his stories into context but he would never
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mention the name of a CIA officer he would never reveal the name that a CIA
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operation was ongoing but in order to do the job and report about the the war in
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accordance with the objectives of the Pentagon and the CIA he would have to
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have certain amount of information and in order to know what not to say and when to talk about what he was not
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supposed to say in the proper way and and and so that's how it basically works
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that's how it still works today any major correspondent in in Iraq or
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Afghanistan has known the CIA officers that are working there for 10 20 years
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they've known these they all came up together and they all work as you know
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Americans who are United for the American Way and to achieve American
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goals which of course in our capitalist society and you can't distinguish
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our capitalist society from the goals of the CIA and the military in terms of its
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imperial objectives it's I you know the objectives of the the New York Times are
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the same as the CIA in the military when it comes to furthering America's
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capitalist goals of the creating and of Imperial again creating an empire no
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matter if they periodically may criticize the methods or you know some
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things that are happening they have that same overall goal and they're both in the media and the CIA and the military
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all united in trying to achieve those goals they have there's nothing that
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distinguishes though well when I was some interviewing CIA officers I
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interviewed some pretty interesting people called II actually arranged for
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me to interview a guy named Frank Scott Frank's gotten was the United States
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Information Service and he went which is the propaganda blanche branch of the
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United States State Department it's the
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the branch of the government that preaches the American line they're the
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ones that come up with the words that are supposed to be used in order to try and bring citizens of foreign countries
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in a line an alignment with American goals and objectives and Scott an was
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sent to Vietnam South Vietnam in 1961 and he worked for a guy who was very closely involved with
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William Colby and Scott and his job was
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setting up what were called armed propaganda teams he would go into he was
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working with the CIA very closely a couple of people told me he was actually in the CIA
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and he was working with the paramilitary branches of the South Vietnamese police
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and military services and they wanted to get the American point of view the
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American line they wanted to preach it to people who were in enemy territory I
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was telling you earlier about villagers who supported the Viet Cong so they would identify a village that supported
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the Viet Cong and Scotland's job was to create a team a paramilitary team of
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soldiers many of which would were listed as having deserted from the South Vietnamese Army and were actually had
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contracts with the CIA guerrilla warfare
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and they would be security for a team that would go into a village that was
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controlled by the enemy and they would have with them agents of the United States information service and they
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would create you know go in take over the village for a day kill any of the
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Viacom that were there gather all the the villagers together and they would
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give them a sermon about why the United States government was why that why these
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villagers should support the United States government and the government of South Vietnam instead of instead of the
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Viet Cong this is what the CIA does all over the world even now they create
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little units like this which are designed to try to speak to people and
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at the village level and convince them to support the United States terrorism
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terrorizing these people is a big tool that they use that was Scotland's job by
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1965 Scott and his program this armed propaganda team program that he had
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piloted for the CIA starting in 1961-62 had begun Nick Gunn nationwide it was
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being used by the CIA in every district in every province in South Vietnam
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they bureaucratized it they standardized that and they created a training center
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in Vung Tau where they started training people how to do this to perform this
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functions one of the people that started working with Frank Scott in the 1965 was
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Daniel Ellsberg Daniel Ellsberg was involved in this program of armed
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propaganda teams in fact he was sent to Vietnam by the assistant secretary of
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defense for international security affairs guy named McNaughton specifically to see how the military
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could be integrated into the CIA program and so called me sends me to Scott to
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understand this and Scott and starts to you know it's telling me the whole story which is described in detail in the
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Phoenix program book and as well and and also in the CIA is organized crime and in the process of Scott and telling me
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about this he says and by the way I lived with Dan Ellsberg for a year he
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was my roommate dan was involved in all this and in 1966 Ellsberg was one of the
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people that worked with me and writing up what was called the roles and missions study which explained how the
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military could become directly involved in these kind of psychological warfare
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operations at the village level now when Daniel Ellsberg wrote his autobiography
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he didn't mention any of that when the
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movie was made about Daniel Ellsberg his involvement in this program was not mentioned
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so I felt it incumbent upon myself to write about that and through Peter Dale
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Scott who a lot of you people may know very famous writer who writes about the
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CIA and drug smuggling like I do I asked Peter Dale Scott about Ellsberg and he
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said to me well dance my very best friend and he set up Peter Dale Scott set me up
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with an interview with Ellsberg and I asked Ellsberg about everything that
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Frank Scott and had told me and basically Ellsberg said yeah sure it's all true and he elaborated on it to some
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extent but the thing you have to know is that until I wrote about Ellsberg until
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Colby introduced me to Scott nobody else had ever written about that aspect of
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Dan Ellsberg's life and again it goes back to some people feel it's their
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patriotic duty to keep the CIA secrets and Ellsberg was one of those people one
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of the people that I wound up speaking with one of the CIA officers with a very
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famous CIA officer named Lucy and Konan a good friend of Tully al Kapoor's they
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had known each other for years Conan had also been in the OSS with Colby Conan
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had parachuted into France like Cole he had only Conan had dealt with the
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Corsican mafia when he was in France and Conan had maintained relations with the
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with the core skins throughout his Corsican drum smoked drug smugglers
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throughout his career Lew Conan was one of the original Americans working for
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the CIA who went to sea to Vietnam to South Vietnam he was there when before Vietnam was partitioned in 1954 and he
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was there after the partition in 1955 doing these kind of paramilitary
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operations that I told you that Scotland was involved in these kind of propagate
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psychological warfare operations when
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Daniel Ellsberg arrived in South Vietnam in 1965 to work with Frank Scott in this
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armed propaganda program one of the people that he also worked with was Luc
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onein and Luco named Frank Scott and and Daniel Ellsberg were very good friends
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and Ellsberg was known as a Azzam what
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was called no stasis swordsman he was always having romantic involvements with
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South Vietnamese women and one of the women he got involved with was a woman
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named Jermaine Jermaine was three parts
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Vietnamese in one part French and
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Ellsberg got in a romantic entanglement with this woman despite the fact that
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Jermaine's boyfriend was a guy named Michele cygwin and now Michele cygwin
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was a Corsican drug smuggler in South Vietnam both Scott and Luc onein told me
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that Michele swig Seguin tried to kill Daniel Ellsberg out of in a jealous rage
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because Ellsberg ruse romancey and his girlfriend Germaine and that codeine and
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and Scott and each separately told me how they had to intervene with the
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Corsican gangsters in order to to prevent this assassination from going on from occurring and I when I talked with
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Dan I asked him about it I said so you know is it true and he said it well it's
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true that Michele cygwin came to my villa and put a gun to my head and told
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me that he was gonna kill me if I didn't stop seeing Germaine but he denied that either Scott or Lu Conan had anything to
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do in preventing the Corsican drug smugglers from killing them and when I
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asked Dan if Conan or the CIA or any of his friends were involved with drug
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trafficking in any way he flat-out said no which is directly contradicted by the
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facts of the matter and anybody who wants to get into the the real facts of
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the matter can read all McCoy's book the politics of heroin in Southeast Asia in
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which McCoy documents a conversation
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that he had with Luke Oni in which Kunene told him that in 1965 at the same
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time he was hanging out with Ellsberg and Scott n' he brokered a truce with
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the major Corsican drug smugglers in Saigon so we know for a fact that Conan
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was dealing with Corsican drug smugglers he had throughout his career but Dan denies him so you know it's just
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for me it was just more evidence that
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Dan Ellsberg has a loyalty to his old CIA comrades and and would do nothing to
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implicate them either in these armed propaganda teams which were basically
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terrorism terrorizing the villages or in drug smuggling and that in my my opinion
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that calls into question his motives and
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other things everything else that he said I could be wrong but that's just my
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personal opinion when the CIA wanted to create a compatible left in France after
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World War two one of the things that did was hire a group of Corsican drug
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smugglers the Guarani family in Marseilles to bust up communist strikes
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in Marseilles the CIA gave through a you know black bag money hired these
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Corsican drug smugglers and there to shellac the strikers so that so that
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the they act basically hired gangsters to destroy the Communist Party in France and also in Italy where of course during
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World War Two the CIA was intimately involved with the Mafia and after World
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War two when the OSS wanted was the
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forerunner to the CIA wanted to take over political control of Sicily and arrange for all these mafia guys to
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become mayors they all worked with the CIA and it had relations with underworld
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traffickers the CIA has intimate relations with underworld traffickers
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here drug traffickers here in the United States when the CIA wanted to overthrow
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Cuba it hired Santo Trafficante who was the the biggest drug trafficker in the
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Mafia in the United States at the time to try to arrange the assassination of
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Fidel Castro that's the CI working with the most the biggest American drug
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trafficker in the united states allowing drugs to come into the United States for
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the single purpose of trying to knock off Fidel Castro I mean that's a fact
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it's Minh in doing that it's suborn the leadership of the bureau Federal Bureau
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of Narcotics which had no choice but to go along with it absolutely subverted lon for the entire
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law enforcement branch of the United States government federal drug law enforcement and it has been doing that
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since its inception when the CIA decided to fight a war in Laos and actually
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arranged it created a secret army
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Mountain yard warriors under a general named Van Pelt see I allowed this guy vang pal to
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traffic and narcotics in exchange for offering up his tribes people to fight this secret war the CIA loud the top
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generals and politicians in South Vietnam and Laos to traffic and make
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fortunes in narcotics in order to advance the political and
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economic interests of the United States government so narcotic trafficking is
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one example CIA has it's its hand in every kind of illegal operation that's being conducted
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in in foreign countries all around the world arms trafficking illegal arms
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trafficking it happens every place where illegal drug trafficking goes on and the
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CIA has its hand in it open to the point that it's actually managing it Mexico is a great example of that it's
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been going on in Mexico for 70 years in order to destabilize the Mexican government CIA arranges for guns to be
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smuggled into different various factions and for drugs to be smuggled out
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everybody knows this it's a fact and that's why I called the CIA to organized
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crime branch in a few words of the United States government it and that is
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also why everything is done in secret
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and it's another reason why all the major media outlets and reporters and
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editors and publishers in this country protect the CIA because it would
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absolutely destroy the illusion that the United States is a force for good and
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that it's the bright shining light in the world if people knew what the CIA was doing they would understand that the
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United States wages war crimes as policy that it's involved in in crime all over
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the world managing crime all over the world I don't wait completely I mean it would be
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like suddenly exposing to to all the Catholics that there is no God you know
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I mean and their maternal United States upside down if people do really
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understood just how evil its leadership is and how it affects it's it's really
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evil plants and objections secretly through the CIA
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a very important person in understanding the CIA was a man named Phil Agee Phil
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Agee had been a CIA officer for many years and he actually wrote a book about
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his experiences in the CIA which is absolutely required reading if you're
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gonna understand the CIA read Phil AG's book Agee called the CIA capitalism's
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invisible army CIA and that was a term that he used if anybody could be said to
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run the CIA you know it would be the
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major industrialists in the United States the major financial institutions
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Wall Street investment firms very have a lot of influence over the CIA the
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petrochemical industry perhaps the one of the major influences over the CIA is
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the arms industry Lockheed Martin although of the people who create and build aircraft carriers
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war planes the whole arms industry it's a boondoggle for imperialism
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capitalism is a boondoggle for the 1% and nowadays you have to include the
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high tech industries software computer companies I mean a very small percentage
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of our population is making billions and billions of dollars out of American
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capitalism and imperialism and and and if anybody could be said to run the CIA it's those people in their totality it's
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an idea it's an ideal it's a belief that
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mother earth and our planet is something
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to be raped and robbed and stolen from and that the people on the planet are
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inherently useless and and worthless and that they're just there for us to be to
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be exploited anybody who has those ideas no matter
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what your whatever level you're at an
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economic part you know scale on the United States if you believe those things and then you're running you're
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helping the run the CIA and you're supporting it in its sabotage and subversion of sovereign nations all
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around the world who in many cases really want to respect the planet and
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implement public policies that are UMaine the Phoenix program can be seen
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as as a bureaucratic way of organizing
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systems the just in the justice system the healthcare system all the different
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systems that that go into making a country the Phoenix program is a way of
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coordinating all these various systems and bringing them under political control so that certain political
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objectives and economic objectives can be met and of course it's it combines
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essentially the the police and the military with civic organizations in
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order to identify people who are considered people who can't be
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assimilated ideologically into the into the systems that were we're trying to
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that are trying to be defended okay and I noticed after immediately after 9/11
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the first thing that Bush did President George Bush at the time was to create an
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all of Homeland Security and the Office of Homeland Security was going to create in
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every state a center that would bring
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together police forces with military what's called NORTHCOM the the branch of
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the military that's involved in policing in a sense North America the the branch
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of the military that operates here domestically with the FBI and and every
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other law enforcement and paramilitary and civic organization in specific
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centers around the country for the specific purpose of identifying potential terrorists and this was
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exactly the bureaucratic system that the CIA set up in South Vietnam through the
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Phoenix program and I'd describe it in excruciating detail and a whole bunch of
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homeland just I described it in a in detail and I in a bunch of articles I
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wrote right after 9/11 called the politics of terror
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the Phoenix returns it comes home to roost there was a whole bunch of articles which I then which were
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consolidated in my latest book the CIA's and/or as organized crime which describe
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how the Phoenix program it's as a bureaucratic system was the model for
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the Department of Homeland Security and how American citizens themselves are now
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since 9/11 being treated the same way the citizens of South Vietnam were
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treated during the Vietnam or as potential sources of information about
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terrorism and terrorists and how they have to be propagandize and how they
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have to be controlled through really the systemic control of information to make
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them good citizens who support capitalism the imperial goals of the
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United States the Foreign Wars that the United States fought fights if you're against the war in Afghanistan or fewer against the
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war in in Iraq all of a sudden now you become a potential terrorist or somebody
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who's supporting terrorism and your name goes into a a computer that's kept in in
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the local Department of Homeland office in whatever state you live in and all
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that information about you is gathered in your and a file is constructed on you
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if you're if you're trying to if you're an activist in the environmental
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movement or if you're in veterans for peace you sure as hell are gonna find your name on a target target list of a
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potential terrorist supporter in the Department of Homeland Security and
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you're you basically sacrifice your right to power to privacy so any citizen
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now who in even the smallest way objects
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or demonstrate objects to stated policies here in the United States you
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know and especially in in yes they regard the war on terror fighting
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against terrorists in countries around the world you become a terrorist surrogate and you can be spied upon and
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all sorts of terrible things can be done to you not least of which is you know you're subject to surveillance and and
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even intimidation in all sorts of ways and that's what's happening here in the
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United States and a lot of people are either on the left on both the left and the right are aware of it that that a
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lot of our civil liberties are being curtailed in the name of the war on terror and it's really just
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psychological warfare techniques that were developed in South Vietnam during
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the South via during the war by guys like Frank Scott and these armed propaganda teams the interrogation
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centers the Phoenix intelligence and operation coordinating centers all these things have been bureaucratized
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and though and that bureaucratic system has now been applied here in the United States tell me how operation Jade helm
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its into this plan to manage the population here well Jade helm was an
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example of the court of for the first time coordinating the military and the
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police services and the intelligence services here in the United States under the supposition that for therefore the
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specific goal of preventing out putting down a counterinsurgency never before
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has it even been thought of that there might be a counterinsurgency here in the
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United States counterinsurgency against what threw Jade helm as a training
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exercise to show police forces how to work with the military in order to
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develop informants within civic society civil society and how to how to be able
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to suppress civilians who are forming militias and/or organizing in any way
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against a federal government America is a militaristic Society after World War
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two veterans who came back to United
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States we're quite glad to no longer be part of the military they had seen
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horrible things and they were satisfied to walk to march in the Memorial Day Parade but they really wanted nothing to
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do with the military there hadn't really been a standing military in the United
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States prior to World War two but after World War two the United States found itself controlling basically operating
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occupation governments in a lot of countries overseas the United States had an occupation government in Italy it had
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an occupation government in Germany it had an occupation government in Japan
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and suddenly the United States military was spread all around the world and with
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the advent of the war the Cold War in the fight against the Soviet Union
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expanded all those military bases overseas under the aegis of the fighting
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a war against communism the United States had now has 750
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military bases around the world and the military budget takes up the huge part
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of our the American budget fifty percent or something like that a huge amount of money is expended to the military and
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supporting these military bases and a lot of jobs in the United States depend
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on the military people it's a vast big employer not only people serving in the
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military but the arms industry and the support industries so since World War
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two the United States has become absolutely militarized and the military
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is venerated and in ways that it never was before and especially since 9/11 the
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military has become involved less so in standard traditional conventional
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military operations as it has become in involved in waging counterinsurgencies
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in foreign countries for the first time since 9/11 most American soldiers are
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now involved in counterinsurgency operations they they operate in small units they invade the homes of private
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citizens in foreign countries and they perform overseas what is basically a
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police function and when these veterans return to United States many of them
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join the police forces or become involved in law enforcement federal law
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enforcement and they bring the expertise
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that they have learned in counterinsurgency operations back here
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to the United States and and the military having such huge influence over
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civil society is able to persuade local law enforcement to arm itself the same way
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that soldiers are armed overseas and
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with the with the whole the whole process and the bureaucrat and the
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bureaucracy now just has created this the same attitude towards civilian society here in the United States as a
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