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Editor’s Note This transcript is the first 56+ minute portion of the 4+ hour live international broadcast of the Corona Committee’s 38th Session featuring Robert F. Kennedy, Jr., and Mary Holland from Children’s Health Defense.

Berlin Corona Committee with Robert F. Kennedy, Jr. and Mary Holland
Special Broadcast: The Great Recall - International
17 Feb 2021
video, mp3 (4:05:00)

This is a transcript of the beginning 56+ minutes of the first live international broadcast by the Berlin Corona Committee featuring Robert F. Kennedy, Jr., and Mary Holland. This segment covers developing serious consequences of injuries and deaths from Covid vaccinations and the pervasive, destructive censorship against criticism of global lockdowns. Titled “Special Broadcast: The Great Recall - International“ this 4+ hour recording is Session 38 of the Corona Committee Meetings. Regarding these meetings, as described by Dr Reiner Fuellmich last October: “Since July 10, 2020, this committee has been listening to a large number of international scientists’ and experts’ testimony to find answers to questions about the corona crisis, which more and more people worldwide are asking.” At different intervals Reiner Fuellmich summarized in German what had just been covered in English and those segments are not included here.

Beginning - Ending of English Segments
01:42 - 10:37
11:59 - 14:31 Film of Footage provided by Whistleblower #2
14:32 - 25:12
25:48 - 36:12
37:22 - 41:10
42:30 - 51:45
52:39 - 54:16
55:33 - 56:27
Beginning at 01:42 - 10:37
Reiner Fuellmich: Good evening. This is the first time that the Berlin Corona Investigative Committee is being broadcast internationally. Lots of things are going on in the legal arena. That’s why we’re going to be talking to a number of attorneys from all over the world. One of them is Dr. Angelo Giorgianni from Italy. We have Dr. Renate Holzeisen from Italy. She just filed yesterday, the annulment complaint against the EU Commission. But there are other people who will also have a word to say in this. We’re going to start out right now with Robert F. Kennedy Jr. from Children’s Health Defense. Can you hear us, Robert?

Robert F. Kennedy, Jr.: I can and I apologize for being late. I’m hopping around on a new hip, so,

RF: Sorry to hear that. But you’re not late. We were late. So everything is quite as usual. How is the situation in the United States as far as the Corona Crisis is concerned?

RFK, Jr.: Well it’s really difficult to tell. The question is about—we have very, very little idea about the efficacy or the safety of the vaccines. And that appears at this point to be the principal, and kind of the only, solution. So there’s not much attention being paid to therapeutic drugs. There appears to be a lot of promise in new therapies, new protocols for caring for patients and off-the-shelf patent-expired drugs that doctors are having tremendous success at reducing infection fatality rates below the rates of seasonal flu, which I think is a very important target for us. On the vaccines, this morning, Bill Gates went on TV and said that they now believe that two shots of the vaccine will not be sufficient, that they’re going to need three shots. And that after that, we’re going to have a lot of boosters.

Self-Anointed Global Health Czar Gates

So the goal posts keep on moving and the problem is we’re not getting good data. Let me—this is important for people in Germany and elsewhere to understand because we’re dealing with experimental vaccines that were not adequately tested. The vaccines that we’re using in the United States do not have FDA approval. They are experimental vaccines that are being—they were allowed under Emergency Use Authorization, which means we do not know the risk profile for those products. If we want to know—the only way—those products could be killing thousands or hundreds of thousands of people, we will never know it because we do not have a surveillance system that is functional. The surveillance we have in the United States, according to HHS, its own study, captures fewer than one percent of vaccine injuries.

Let me explain to people in Germany what you should expect from your health officials and what you should demand from your health officials. This is the only way we can understand whether a vaccine is actually averting more problems than it’s causing. Here is the essential thing you need to know. Every health official in Germany should know what the background death rate is for elderly people, for people between 70 and 80, and for people between 80 and 90. What is the background level for death?

For example, in the United States, people between 65 and 74 years old, have a death rate of 4.9 per hundred thousand per day. So in that age cohort, we can expect, with all other things being the same, that in our country, 4.9 people between 65 and 75 years old will die every day for every hundred thousand people in our population. That’s a very important number. Because then you want to compare that number with the death rate following vaccination. So everybody who dies in Germany or the United States within two months of taking a vaccine, that death needs to be scrupulously recorded.

It doesn’t matter whether the coroner said it had nothing to do with the vaccine. It doesn’t matter if the doctor said it had nothing to do with the vaccine. You need to know that number because there’s no way from examining a body that you can tell whether the vaccine killed that person or whether it was vascular collapse or whether it was stroke or a seizure or heart attack or mitochondrial infection or blood clots. There’s no fingerprint.

The only way to determine, to make a determination about whether the vaccine is safe is by doing the body count. I am saying anybody who dies within two months of getting that vaccine, we need to know the day and the time of their death. You should really do it for six months. And then you take that number and you compare it to the background rate, and you say, are we killing, are people dying from this vaccine at a greater rate—are people between 65 and 74 years old dying after they get this vaccine at a higher rate than the background rate, which is 4.9 people per a hundred thousand? If they are dying more often, then you have a problem with the vaccine,

If your health officials do not know the answer to that question, they are committing malpractice. And we all need to know the answer to that question. We all need to be scrutinizing the surveillance systems that allow us to make sure that we are capturing every death and every injury following vaccination.

I think one of the reasons that we’re here today, I’m hoping, is to view a video. And the video was a video that we initially heard about during an interview with the Corona Investigation Committee, where somebody from—a whistleblower from a nursing home in Germany reported some atrocities that were occurring in that nursing home in conjunction with the administration of vaccines. We later were approached by whistleblowers who gave us copies of a film that confirmed the dialogue and the report that we heard in that Committee meeting. If we are technically proficient, which I hope—I’m not going to guarantee it— we will be able to play that film for you now. And I don’t know who here is in charge of it, but we gave you guys the copy—we have a longer version of this film that goes almost 40 minutes. We’re going to play for you right now, a four minute version of the film, which shows some of the highlights. So can we, can we try to roll that film?
Ends at 10:37

10:42 - 11:24
Reiner Fuellmich summary in German

11:59 - 14:31
Film of Footage provided by Whistleblower #2

Note: The following segment describes information provided to the Corona Committee by whistleblowers. There is a Whistleblower page on the Corona Committee website (link to this on the homepage is titled “Hinweise”, translated as “Hints”) where anonymous reports are recorded and processed. As relayed via crude auto-generated English translation of the Whistleblower page:
We are committed to independent, transparent and evidence-based analysis.
Report grievances
Advice from the general public is often very helpful for our work.
Anonymous reports are recorded and processed via our system.
  As of 21 Feb 2021:
14:32 - 25:12
Reiner Fuellmich: We’re back. This is a clip that we never expected to see. Viviane [Fischer] and I spoke with the whistleblowers from that nursing home, and they explained to us that out of 31 people, these are all people who are suffering from dementia, out of 31 people who were vaccinated eight died within two or three weeks. 11 more suffer from serious side effects, serious adverse effects. And they explained to us how all of them had tested negative before they were vaccinated, before they were given the injections, and how they were all in good shape, apart from the fact of course, that they were suffering from dementia. One of them is a runner in his late seventies, I think, or was a runner, I should say, who was also an opera singer. He outran one of the nurses who was in her mid thirties. He was still singing operas on the day that he got vaccinated. After he got vaccinated, a couple of days later, he died. So this opera singer doesn’t sing anymore.

This video clip is horrific, horrific. The thing that’s most disturbing about this is we are getting more and more calls from other whistleblowers from other nursing homes in this country. Plus we’re getting information from other countries: Sweden, for example; Norway [][], for example; Gibraltar, for example; they’re also incidents in England and in the United States that match these descriptions. It may not be as bad as it is in this particular nursing home, in every single incident, but it’s bad enough. It means that people are dying because of the vaccine. So of course, we’re going to have to go and look into the details. We’re going to have to have autopsies performed.

But what we’re seeing in this video clip is worse than anything we ever expected. And if that is true, and if this is representative for what’s going on in the other nursing homes and in other countries, then we have a very serious problem. And so do the people who make the vaccines. So do the people who administer the vaccines for various reasons. But this is—it looks more and more as though we’re dealing with homicide, maybe even murder. We’re going to have to look into the details.

Robert have you seen the clip? What do you think of this video? Is there anything that you have learned in the United States that sounds like there’s stuff like this going on in the United States as well?

RFK, Jr.: We are getting many, many reports as you say, from all over the world including the United States, in New York and other parts of the United States, of mass deaths in elderly care and nursing home facilities following vaccination. And strange reports also of populations that were uninfected that tested negative for Covid and then following the vaccination, they actually tested positive. In many cases, their deaths are declared as Covid deaths, which is odd, and we don’t understand it. And I don’t pretend to understand it. But all I can tell you is we’re getting many, many reports in the countries that you mentioned, including Belgium and Spain, which I don’t think you did mention, but also in the Eastern European countries and all over the United States. We’re seeing large-scale reports of deaths from nursing homes, all in vaccination.

RF: Yes. We got another call last night from another whistleblower. Viviane and I did another interview with her from a completely different care home. This is a nurse who worked first on a Corona Ward in a general hospital and she just couldn’t take what she was seeing there. She wasn’t able to cope with that. She tells us that in that nursing home, after vaccinations, a number of people died or fell seriously ill.

She was trying to alert the doctors to what she saw and make them act on it. But nobody really wanted to act on it because most of the people, most of the personnel, the staff in that hospital—that’s how she explained it to us—were in panic mode and are all afraid of speaking out. Finally she couldn’t take it anymore because in one instance there was one patient who was dying and she was in her late eighties. And she described how the doctors—because there’s financial incentives involved—how the doctors were still trying to test her. And they tested and tested, taking the swab, poking in her nose. Until, while she was dying, and still, she started to bleed. That’s when she couldn’t take it anymore.

She left that workplace and because she thought this is a better work environment, she started to work for a nursing home. She says at first it was nice to work there, nice to work with the people. The staff was nice. And then they started vaccinating. Same thing all over again. People started to die. Well, we asked her how do the relatives of the people who are dying, how do they react? She says, in most cases, they don’t react. They don’t want to look into this because they simply believe what they’re being told, that this is a Covid death.

Now we have to take into consideration that that actually makes sense because all of these relatives only know the individual, their individual loved one. They don’t know the general situation. So only if you know what’s really going on, if you have the whole picture—and I think the only people who do are the staff who work there—then you realize that there’s something seriously ill.

We asked her why doesn’t the staff do something? Same answer again. They’re all afraid. Only very, very few are willing to take a stand and to speak out. However, we’re lucky because we, as the Corona Committee through this Whistleblower tool, we’re getting more and more people to speak out, even though we have to distort their voices, because of course, they’re all afraid to lose their jobs. And sometimes we can’t show their faces. But it looks as though this is a general phenomenon, even though we don’t know any of the details. And there’s a lot of research that will have to be done probably all over the world.

It looks as though there’s something seriously, seriously, wrong with these, let me say injections rather than vaccinations. Do you know of any cases in the United States where maybe the DA is looking into such incidents or is the same story happening in the United States and people don’t want to mess with this?

RFK, Jr.: It’s the same story in the United States and probably the worst malpractice. Everybody is frightened. Nobody is willing to challenge the orthodoxy. The worst malpractice is happening among the American media which punishes and censors people who report vaccine injuries. If you report a vaccine injury on Facebook you’re posting will be taken down and you will be de-platformed. I was de-platformed from Instagram this week. I never put—and they said, because I told falsehoods about Covid. But I never had a single falsehood. Every single posting that we put on Instagram was sourced to a public government database or to a peer reviewed publication. Nobody can show me a single, false statement that I made on Instagram.

But if you criticize the orthodoxy, you will be silenced, you will be demoted, you will be punished. The people in the press know that and the press just doesn’t report it. They report it the way that they’re told to report it which is these aren’t Covid deaths, these are normal and don’t worry about it. So there’s no scrutiny of this enterprise. All of the institutions that democracy has erected to protect vulnerable children from large corporations and from overreaching by government have been dismantled. The lawyers can’t sue in the United States. The regulatory agencies are captured, are an arm of the industry, and the press is also captured. And of course the, the frontline medical doctors are punished if they report vaccine injury.
Ends at 25:12

As Franklin D. Roosevelt put it bluntly in 1933, this coterie of wealthy forces is the “financial element in the larger centers [that] has owned the government ever since the days of Andrew Jackson.” Their wealth and power has increased exponentially since then, and their connected tentacles have further spread to create what is an international deep state that involves such entities as the International Monetary Fund, the World Bank, the World Economic Forum, those who meet yearly at Davos etc. They are the international overlords who are pushing hard to move the world toward a global dictatorship....

Greenwald, Taibbi, and Hedges are correct up to a point, but they stop short. Their critique of old school journalism à la Edward Herman and Noam Chomsky’s Manufacturing of Consent model, while true as far as it goes, fails to pin the tail on the real donkey. Like old school journalists who knew implicitly how far they could go, these guys know it too, as if there is an invisible electronic gate that keeps them from wandering into dangerous territory.

The censorship of Robert Kennedy, Jr. is an exemplary case. His banishment from Instagram and the ridicule the mainstream media have heaped upon him for years is not simply because he raises deeply informed questions about vaccines, Bill Gates, the pharmaceutical companies, etc. His critiques suggest something far more dangerous is afoot: the demise of democracy and the rise of a totalitarian order that involves total surveillance, control, eugenics, etc. by the wealthy led by their intelligence propagandists.

To call him a super spreader of hoaxes and a conspiracy theorist is aimed at not only silencing him on specific medical issues, but to silence his powerful and articulate voice on all issues. To give thoughtful consideration to his deeply informed scientific thinking concerning vaccines, the World Health Organization, the Bill and Melinda Gates Foundation, etc., is to open a can of worms that the powerful want shut tight.

This is because RFK, Jr. is also a severe critic of the enormous power of the CIA and its propaganda that goes back so many decades and was used to cover up the national security state’s assassination of both his father and his uncle.

It is why his wonderful recent book, American Values: Lessons I Learned from My Family, that contains not one word about vaccines, was shunned by mainstream book reviewers; for the picture he paints fiercely indicts the CIA in multiple ways while also indicting the mass media that have been its mouthpieces.

These worms must be kept in the can, just as the power of the international overlords represented by the World Health Organization and the World Economic Forum with its Great Reset must be. They must be dismissed as crackpot conspiracy theories not worthy of debate or exposure.

Robert Kennedy, Jr., by name and dedication to truth seeking, conjures up his father’s ghost, the last politician who, because of his vast support across racial and class divides, could have united the country and tamed the power of the CIA to control the narrative that has allowed for the plundering of the world and the country for the wealthy overlords.

25:48 - 36:12
Reiner Fuellmich: The only good thing about this is that all of these inefficiencies that have been around for probably 20 or 30 years are now coming out into the open and more and more people are beginning to understand that there is something seriously wrong. That’s the case in this country and that’s the case in the United States as well, as far as I can see, because there are these alternative media outlets who more and more people turn to to get real information.

We spoke today with Professor Schwab, who is a Professor at the University of Bielefeld here. And he explains to us—just like you said—one of the most, one of the worst causes of this crisis are of course, the mainstream media, because they appear to be fully in the hands of the orthodoxy as you phrased it. Fully in the hands of the government and don’t seem to be able to even try to give us [interruption].

What we’re going to do in this country is we have one tiny little advantage because our mainstream media consists of the national public radio system, which is being subsidized—I shouldn’t say subsidized—but every every citizen in this country, every household in this country has to pay a fee for being able to watch public television and listen to public radio. However, in return, they’re supposed to give us real information and real education.

They don’t do that anymore. They haven’t done this for a year. So what we’re going to do is we’re going to—a group of lawyers are ready to reclaim what was paid over the last 12 months, because over the last 12 months there’s been nothing but propaganda. Many people, probably millions of people who have always been kind of fed up with this official broadcasting or public broadcasting system, will stop making any further payments. We’re going to be using this money to set up an entire new media landscape, which hopefully will consist of people and organizations that will give us real information.

You’ve had this for a long time in the United States. The alternative media have been very active for a long time. And in my view, they’re much more active there than they are here. But still it appears that the majority of the people—and I’m talking in particular about people who are their 70s or 80s, who have gotten used to, and who believe in the system who just cannot, probably cannot even bear the thought that there’s something wrong with the system, with the orthodoxy—that this part of the population is still trusting the mainstream media. Is that so?

RFK, Jr.: The public in the United States generally trust the mainstream media and in truth Reiner we do not have an active—while we use to have a liberal media in our country like Huffington Post, Daily Beast, Salon, Slate, Politico, that were something of an antidote to the corporate takeover of American democracy. But those outlets are now completely co-opted. So you will not see any major outlet, other than the ones we publish, which is The Defender, challenge the official orthodoxies. Nobody is a publishing the truth. Everybody has stepped in line.

RF: Our friend, Professor Schwab today said—and he has parents who are in their mid or late eighties and they desperately wanted to get vaccinated and they did. He was quite upset about that. Thus far, nothing’s gone wrong, or at least nothing appears to have gone wrong. But he says, now that he’s looking, that he’s seeing the full picture, he doesn’t believe anything anymore that is being published by the mainstream media. He doesn’t believe the picture that they’re painting about Russia or the United States. Nothing of the orthodoxy is credible he says. So he has—and we all should make up our own minds by getting, taking in as much information as we can, and then decide what part of the story makes sense and what part doesn’t.

The whistleblowers who have been talking to us and the whistleblowers who still want to talk to us, I think it’s courageous of them to come forward and explain what’s going on. But on the other hand, of course, they are under a lot of pressure because they can’t come out with their real names, their real faces and their real voices, because they too are afraid of losing their jobs.

As far as the vaccination or the injection is concerned, isn’t—at least here in Germany, that was a red line. And that still is a red line for many, many people, including those who are in line with the government. Because many of these people—may be even a silent majority—has been, has become quite critical and they’ve started to ask questions. Many of them have said, okay, I’m going to go along with the mask, I’m going to go along with social distancing, but I’m not going to get vaccinated. Is that the same kind of stance that people take in the US?

RFK, Jr.: Yes, to answer that the United States is divided. Democrats are generally very, very—and I’m a Democrat—are very supportive of the vaccine and are flocking to get the vaccine. I think 70 or 80 percent of them say that they’re intended to get vaccinated. Republicans, I think 40 percent of Republicans support the vaccine. So I don’t know. We’ll see what happens. The problem is we’re not getting any—there is no way to gauge safety because we do not have a surveillance system. So all of these injuries are invisible and the press isn’t reporting them.

RF: Yes, the same thing’s going on here. Even though we have a so-called Sentinel System, it doesn’t seem to function anymore. You mentioned The Defender. The last piece that you wrote and The Defender made quite a splash because it was very informative as far as Bill Gates is concerned. I’m not sure if that video is part of that Defender article, but there is a video in which Bill Gates says—and I think you’re alluding to this in your article—in which he says that the profits that he’s making from investing in the vaccine industry are beyond anything that he’s ever been able to make as a profit with Microsoft. Tonight, this very same Bill Gates is going to appear on public television here in Germany on one of the most important talk shows, and he’s going to explain how he is becoming a poor man because he’s losing all this money that he has invested for philanthropical purposes, that he has invested in the vaccine industry. What is the truth?

Bill Gates has quietly made himself the largest owner of farmland in the United States. For a man obsessed with monopoly control, the opportunity to also dominate food production must seem irresistible.

Even as he consolidates control over our health and food systems, Gates is promoting digitalized currencies, calling these systems a “global humanitarian priority.” (Kissinger’s final adjuration is, “Who controls money can control the world”), and is funding ground and space-based and 5G infrastructures, city-sized analytics centers, and biometric chips to mine and harvest our data and biodata and as mechanisms of surveillance, profit, and control.

Gates is planning a satellite fleet that will be able to survey every square inch of the planet 24 hours per day. Such systems will no doubt be useful should populations become restless with political and economic structures that strip citizens of power, shift wealth ever upward, and doom most of humanity to meaningless, hopeless survival.

Democracy and farm freedom advocate Dr. Vandana Shiva says that Gates’ philanthrocapitalism is a “destructive force with the potential to push the future of our planet towards extinction and ecological collapse.” Shiva accuses Gates of using philanthropic capitalism to accelerate the corporate takeover of our seed, agriculture, food, knowledge and global health systems. “He funds the manipulation of information and promotes the erosion of democracy — all in pursuit of personal power and profits.”

Shiva says the Gates Foundation has powered an “unholy alliance” between big capital, science and technology institutions and governments to establish a global empire over life, through monocultures, patents and monopolies designed to destroy the natural world of diversity, self-organization and freedom.

“You have seen the wickedness they can do with vaccines in the name of public health,” Shiva told me. “Well, now he controls the land. He controls the seed. He controls the food. He has the ultimate power to starve us all to death.”

RFK, Jr.: The truth is that, I don’t think you can say that he’s made more money on vaccines than he’s made from Microsoft. I can tell you some of the details that we know about his financing. He is today, the biggest vaccine producer in the world. He is the third or fourth richest man in the world. His net worth is $133 million, and he’s done very well from the pandemic. So the lockdown has created enormous wealth for him. His wealth has increased by $22 billion since the beginning of the lockdown. And the same is true of Mark Zuckerberg, Jeffrey Bezos, Michael Bloomberg, and Sergi Bryn, who runs Google the company, while the middle class across Europe and the United States is being obliterated and people are being forced into poverty. The social media and the big data titans are raking in cash. And these are the very people who are enforcing the censorship against criticism of the lockdown over which they are profiteering.
Ends at 36:12

37:22 - 41:10
RF: Are people worried about this because—or are they not aware of the fact that some people are making huge profits from this crisis while everyone else is suffering badly?

RFK, Jr.: I don’t think most Americans are aware of it because the newspapers won’t cover anything that is negative about the lockdowns or about the counter measures. The only thing that you hear from the press in our country are things that support government policies and they censor what they call “vaccine misinformation”. But that term is a euphemism that means anything that departs from the official government proclamations, whether it’s true or not, is censored if it is disagrees with the government. So most Americans are not hearing these.

RF: Now the odd thing, I shouldn’t say funny thing, but the odd thing is that this very same thing is going on, not just in the United States, not just here in Germany, but all over the world. Which does seem to point at some kind of, shall I say, lock step or plan behind this. Because it cannot be a coincidence, at least not in my mind as an attorney, as a lawyer, it cannot be a coincidence that this is going on worldwide. Now we know that the people we were just talking about, the people who are profiting from this crisis, have so much money that they also of course have invested it in the so-called mainstream media. But doesn’t anybody, isn’t anybody worried about the fact that the notion of free speech, that the idea of free speech as the very basis for any functioning democracy is now in the hands of private corporations who have never been elected by anyone?

RFK, Jr.: Yes, there’s a lot of us are very worried about that. We’re litigating on that issue, but it’s a very, very difficult problem. One of the problems we have in the United States that you don’t have in Europe is that in 1997 we changed the law in our country to allow pharmaceutical companies to do direct consumer advertising on television. So today the big television networks can make up to 70 percent of their revenues on pharmaceutical products. What it means is that pharmaceutical companies are dictating the contents of what we see on the news. So there’s no disagreement with anything that is pharmaceutical on the news. Because those CNN, ABC, NBC, Fox are all making their money, the bulk of their money—Anderson Cooper gets $12 million a year and about 10 million of that comes from pharmaceutical companies. Then for Fox news, which is kind of the opposition, Rupert Murdoch who runs Fox news also runs, owns the biggest vaccine company in Australia. So you have the press in our country that has been absolutely taken over by the pharmaceutical industry and that’s really, I think, a very, very big problem for American democracy.
Ends at 41:10

42:30 - 51:45
Reiner Fuellmich: This problem seems so big and the resulting damage seems so horrendous all over the world that many of us have been thinking that maybe the national courts will not be able to cope with this. So the idea has been floating, and we’ve been discussing this with a number of our colleagues from all over the world, that maybe we’re going to need—once we get this to stop—we’re going to need, in order to go and deliver justice, we’re going to need something like a Nuremberg trial, second generation. Is that something that lawyers that you work with have also been thinking about?

RFK, Jr.: Yes Reiner, I don’t want to depress you, but there has been so much infiltration of the international institutions that we rely on for that kind of governance. Particularly by Bill Gates and by Davos and by the big financial—the World Bank, the World Economic Forum, and then all of Bill Gates’ quasi-governmental agencies like GAVI and PATH [Program for Appropriate Technology in Health] and CEPI [Coalition for Epidemic Preparedness Innovations]. It seems that it would be difficult to get fair treatment in those kind of forums. And of course then there’s jurisdictional problems. The United States doesn’t really recognize the jurisdiction of those kind of forums anyway. I think we’re going to have to figure this out. I think what we need to do, we need to try to figure out ways, first of all, of communicating to the public.

We’re off of social media. The mainstream press is now captured by the pharmaceutical industry. But there are now other evolving ways for people who are learning to communicate to each other in other ways. And we need to do that. We need to establish credible ways that people who care about democracy, who care about civil rights, who are concerned about the ascendancy of the medical cartel, to begin really revolting against those—the increase and unacceptable power, of those power centers. One of those ways is through communication. The other is in many of our independent nations there are opportunities in the courts where you still have integrity in the court and the judicial system of some of our countries. It’s getting smaller and smaller and more constricted but I think, those to me, those present the best opportunities, really: public organizing, public communication and use of the courts.

Reiner Fuellmich: I think it also makes sense that what we’ve been doing for months now—CHD and us as the Corona Committee, plus others from all over the world—Renate Holzeisen from Italy—it also makes a lot of sense for all of us to keep—to continue to cooperate and share the evidence that we have so that we’re all on the same page and that we’re all on the same level. Meaning that because the problem is universal and it’s almost identical worldwide, we’re going to be able to use judgments from, for example, Germany. There’s a recent, great decision by a judge in Weimar. Or a decision, which I’ve just learned about. We’re going to learn more about this sometime later tonight. There’s a great decision from Uruguay. There’s this PCR test decision from Portugal.

I think it’s really important that we cooperate closely and share the evidence that we have in order to show to the rest of the world that this is not just a bunch of people who are working isolated from each other, but that we are a force as lawyers. We’re just part of a part of the whole thing of course—the education, the transparency thing, the communication—with the rest of the public, is just as important.

But I think it’s really important to show the world that, as you said, those parts of the judicial system that still have integrity are still functioning. And that we—you and I, and the rest of the people who are all working with us—are doing the best we can to show and to get as many decisions as possible from the courts of law that say PCR tests cannot tell you anything about infections and that there are no asymptomatic infections and even if there were it doesn’t play a role. As many of these decisions as possible because the PCR test, the Drosten PCR test was and still is the centerpiece of this whole thing. If we destroy that narrative, I think this house of cards is going to come down crashing soon.

On 15 December a cease and desist order was served on Prof. Dr. Christian Drosten by Dr. Reiner Fuellmich as a necessary prerequisite to filing numerous lawsuits. As stated in the last paragraph: “Please note that with every day that you maintain your deliberately false risk assessment of COVID-19, you are only making matters worse - for countless people in this country, but also for yourself. We will make this letter available to all colleagues who are willing to represent clients who have suffered harm as a result of the Corona measures. If you do not comply with our above request, a lawsuit will become unavoidable. In the course of this lawsuit, the whole truth about the lockdown will become the subject of a judicial hearing.”

The contents of the Order are:

  1. The basic assumptions of Corona-Politics
  2. On the errors underlying these assumptions: the five lockdown fallacies
    1. The first false claim: No basic immunity
    2. The second false claim: symptomless risk of infection
    3. The third false claim: PCR-based diagnostics
    4. The fourth false claim: the menace of overload of the healthcare systems
    5. The fifth false claim: Restriction on freedom can be beneficial
    6. The interlocking of the deliberately false lockdown claims
  3. Your personal responsibility
    1. On the question of basic immunity
    2. On the subject of the danger of symptomless infection
    3. About the PCR test
    4. Your lockdown recommendations
    5. Causality and attribution
  4. Legal Consequences

Okay. Is there anything that we have missed that we still need to talk about? Is there any piece of information that you think is important for the public to know which I didn’t think of?

RFK: I could go on for a couple of days talking about how [multiple voices] keep my lips shut.

RF: But I was wondering, is there something that you think is important for the rest of the world to know which we haven’t spoken about yet?

RFK, Jr.: No. I mean, I there’s a lot as you know, Reiner. Yes, I think you did a good job of covering it.

Markus Haintz: Do you have lawyers association in the United States too, which is critical or something like that?

RFK, Jr.: Yes, our organization, the Children’s Health Defense and Mary Holland—who’s one of our attorneys is on here—and we have attorneys in Europe as well. We have many, many attorneys from the United States and we are involved in a lot of litigation. We’re suing Facebook at the moment. We’re suing Facebook for censoring us. But Facebook has a right to censor people. Facebook is a private company. If they don’t like what you say they can throw you off. But in our case, what we argue is that the government instructed them to the censor us. Adam Schiff, who’s the head of the Intelligence Committee, told them to censor all vaccine misinformation. And Facebook has said that it is coordinating its censorship with CDC and with WHO, and with the US State Department.

In our country, private companies can censor you, but the government is not allowed to censor you. What our argument in our court case against Facebook says is you are acting as a government surrogate. So you are censoring us because the government told you to censor us and because they don’t like our political speech. That’s a violation of the First Amendment. That’s one of the approaches we’re bringing but we have many, many, many lawsuits right now.

RF: We have filed a lawsuit against Google slash YouTube for the very same reason here in Germany. However, we have an advantage because our Constitution, our basic rights, the first 20 articles of the German Constitution also apply even though indirectly to private corporations. So that’ll be helpful in this country. Plus, the European Union, when it was still functioning, couple of years ago, passed a law, a privacy law that is a little bit more protective of the general population than the laws that you have in the United States.
Ends at 51:45

With Mary Holland, CHD General Counsel and President of the Board of Directors.
52:39 - 54:16
RF: There’s another complaint in New York, a PCR test complaint. Is there a result as far as the first part of the complaint is concerned? I think there was an injunction? Do you know anything about what the situation is, Mary?

Mary Holland: I can speak to that, yes. We applied for a preliminary injunction against New York City that was requiring all children to have PCR tests or they could not participate in in-school learning. That case is still pending, but interestingly, yesterday, New York State Department of Education issued a guidance document, a letter, saying that no school could require testing on a mandatory basis in any school in the state or for any school activity. We don’t believe that guidance would have been given without the lawsuit, but we are not going to withdraw the claim before the court. We want the court to decide that that is the law before we do anything else.

RF: That is excellent news. That’s the case that Ray Flores argued, right?

MH: Yes, exactly. You inpired us Reiner.

RF: And he’s inspiring us now. That’s great. I’m going to explain this to our viewers.
Ends at 54:16

RF: I assume since this happened yesterday, Ray is probably still celebrating but I think it’s great you’re going to keep on—you’re going to ask for a decision in this case.

MH: Yes. We just today wrote to the court to say, It’s not a moot issue. It could come back unless the court comes to a decision. So we are still waiting and we emphasized to the court that it’s not moot.

RF: Excellent. Great. That is really good news. Best news of the day. Okay, still, if there’s nothing else that we need to cover as far as the special situation in the United States is concerned I’m going to just let you go because I know you are really busy and I’m really, really grateful for both of you to take this time and talk to us.

MH: Thank you. We look forward to contnuing to cooperate with all of you.

RF: Okay great. Thank you very much Mary. Thank you very much Robert
Ends at 56:27

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