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Editor’s Note: This is an annotated transcript of the bulk of Catherine Austin Fitts interviewed by Greg Hunter at:
While the following is profound and disturbing, it illuminates how our world actually operates today and makes constructive, life-affirming change possible. Of equal value and significance is to recognize how many of our human family possess the antidote to the overweening corporate state propaganda produced daily. As Catherine Austin Fitts writes at the opening of 2020 Solari Heroes: “Every lie, every corrupt act, and every bit of fake news and fake science has been met and bested by the fierce intelligence, experience, and courage of many leaders among us who speak life into our situation at every turn. Here are some of the many heroes who have made an extraordinary difference in our lives in 2020.” Those listed include Doctors, Nurses, Scientists, Sheriffs, Publishers & Journalists, Lawyers, Spiritual Leaders, Government Officials, and Activists. Additional notable heros include—and are not limited to—Alison McDowell, Edward Curtin, Junious Ricardo Stanton, Whitney Webb, Doctors Peter McCullough, Vladimir Zelenko, Pierre Kory, Peter Gøtzsche, Wolfgang Wodarg, Colleen Huber, Claus Köhnlein, Jim Meehan, Harvey Risch, Vernon Coleman, Annie Bukacek, Lisa Koche, Joseph Mercola, Prof John P.A. Ioannidis, Prof Carl Heneghan, Denis Rancourt, Meryl Nass, Prof Paul Marik, Reiner Fuellmich, Rocco Galati, Pamela Popper, Michael Yeadon, Vera Sharav, David Martin, Mark Crispin Miller, Cynthia McKinney, Jason Bosch, J.B. Handley, Peter Koenig, Gary Null, Cory Morningstar, Beda M Stadler, F. William Engdahl, Michel Chossudovsky, Michael Levitt, Sam Husseini, Knut Wittkowski, Vandana Shiva, Torsten Engelbrecht, Tony Heller, Brandy Vaughan, Alex Gutentag, CJ Hopkins, Michael Fumento and many, many others.
Always remember: Well and away the super majority of our single, unitary human family share the same principles and through action express supreme devotion to honoring and serving the creative evolution of the human project.

Catherine Austin Fitts:
The Greatest Violations of the Nuremberg Code in History
Interview by Greg Hunter,, 17 April 2021
Gratitude to Dr. Uwe Alschner for this German translation
video, mp3 (34:31)

Catherine Austin Fitts is the president of Solari, Inc., publisher of the Solari Report, and managing member of Solari Investment Advisory Services, LLC. She served as managing director and member of the board of directors of the Wall Street investment bank Dillon, Read & Co. Inc., as Assistant Secretary of Housing and Federal Housing Commissioner at the United States Department of Housing and Urban Development in the first Bush Administration, and was the president of Hamilton Securities Group, Inc. She has designed and closed over $25 billion of transactions and investments to-date and has led portfolio and investment strategy for $300 billion of financial assets and liabilities. Read her resumé and her online book, Dillon Read & Co. Inc. & The Aristocracy Of Stock Profits, which chronicles her experiences on Wall Street and in Washington D.C.

“Long ago, I made a promise that I would never act against the best interests or the excellence of my own people—that I would do my best to ensure that we were worthy of the stewardship of our world and that we did our best to leave a better world for generations yet to come. To make and keep such a promise is to understand that money and position are tools, not goals, and that death is not the worst thing that can happen. Some would probably accuse me of ‘fighting the tape’ and not being ‘good at the game.’ I would tell those people that now is not the time in the history of our people for a failure of imagination.”
—Catherine Austin Fitts

Beginning at 0:54
“For we fight not for glory nor riches nor honours, but for freedom alone, which no good man gives up except with his life.”
Catherine Austin Fitts: I keep saying our freedom comes to us by divine authority and no government can take it away. If you look at the cover, the cover is a quote from the treaty of Arbroath in Scotland [written in 1320] ... it’s the Braveheart period. I was in Edinburgh at the Scottish National Museum and I turned a corner and there it was...
I told you the big question for 2020 is what are we going to do about the Beck Brothers? The Beck Brothers being the evil doers and in the movie Yellowstone. I don’t know if you’ve seen the movie Braveheart, but this is kind of a Braveheart moment in history. We had done State of our Currencies and then we did “The Injection Fraud – It’s Not a Vaccine” [27 May 2020, Solari.comand see the Introduction to A Sane Person’s Guidebook of the Solari Report 2nd Quarter 2020 Wrap Up - The Injection Fraud] and I wanted to remind people that our freedom comes to us from divine authority. I asked Nina Hein who writes our Food for the Soul Column, which is our culture column, to go back through history and teach us what did the great artists say about freedom?
[For example, see: ]
I said from the beginning, the first time you and I talked about this, I think the bankers are trying to chip us. Moderna describes their injection, their gene therapy, as an operating system. And I literally agree with them. I think they’re trying to download an operating system into our body. I don’t think it’s an accident that Charles Lieber, who was working with the Wuhan Lab is an expert at brain-machine interface. And then the man President Trump appointed as head of Operational Warp Speed [Dr Moncef Slaoui] was also an expert at brain-machine interface.

I think the goal here is literally to—just like Bill Gates downloaded an operating system into your computer and made you update it regularly on the threat of another virus—I think they’re trying to play the same game with human bodies. And it’s hard for people to fathom if you haven’t followed what’s happening in biotech and to fathom how much money the bankers can make, if they can achieve this. We saw the Chairman of the Federal Reserve talk about how the economy was getting better because the vaccination rate was going up. I think that’s code for: The bank stocks are going up because we’re downloading operating systems in more and more people and our stock reflects that. So we get a pop on our stock, every person we can remotely control with our operating system....

Greg Hunter: That’s unbelievable. I mean, there ought to be Nuremberg trials over this. This is awful....

Catherine Austin Fitts: If you look at the deaths and adverse events and the failure to provide true informed consent, we’re talking about the greatest violations of the Nuremberg code in history. Now. Whoever was tried for at the end of World War II does not hold a candle to what’s happening now....

I have to tell you, I’ve studied a lot about mind control and entrainment technology ... I’ve talked a lot about it for years and I came to it because of being an investment advisor, I saw people defrauded using that technology. And I saw how powerful it was to defraud them and manipulate and control them and what it was doing to people’s financial situation. So if you look at two of the things that was most harming my client’s financial situation, it was mind control and healthcare fraud. Financial fraud and healthcare fraud and entrainment was a very big part of it. So I got onto it early and I’ve had a very difficult time persuading people that the technology is that powerful and that bad and they need to protect themselves from it.

Greg Hunter: Do you think that this is how they got—I think they’re up to nearly 200 million shots. They’ve got close to a hundred million people vaccinated.

Catherine Austin Fitts: Okay. So I don’t trust the statistics. I really don’t because one of the things that I’ve seen and gotten feedback on is that the resistance is much greater than they’re indicating in any kind of official statistics. And also there’s indication that the deaths and the adverse events are much worse and that has to be spreading virally. So if you look at the people who are most resistant, including the healthcare workers and the nursing staff workers, they’re seeing the adverse events and they’re seeing the deaths. So I don’t trust the statistics. I think a lot of those statistics are things that are shipped, not things that are necessarily injected. So I would be careful.

Here’s what I do believe. I do not know if Dr. Yeadon is right, but I think what he saying, given his experience and qualifications, indicates how irrational these are as a matter of health. There is no reason in terms of health or public safety that anyone needs to get these. And of course, I believe it’s all about the health and safety of the owners of the central banks. But put that aside, the doctors and scientists I trust—and I constantly listen to and talk to people and try and find the best people—essentially what they say is this is an experiment and it’s true. These aren’t approved by the FDA. These are authorized under an experimental—this is a trial, this is a human trial. And what they say is that we won’t know for anywhere from 4 to 6 to 16 to 18 months, what the real impact is. And if the impact here is the same as it is with—well, these aren’t vaccines—it’s really gene therapy. It’s really downloading an operating system.

It’s different than what traditionally was referred to as a vaccination. And I would argue under law, they’re not vaccinations. But whatever they are, if it follows the history of vaccination, what you’re going to see is a tremendous dimunition of people’s immune systems and a whole world of auto-immune diseases that can be explained away by other things. I would guess that the leadership is, their goal is not necessarily to depopulate—although I could be wrong—but their goal is to download an operating system and to get that done, they don’t care how many people they kill. This is a giant experiment. The human race has become sort of livestock, cult guinea pigs here....

It’s very sad because if you look at the people who are doing this there’s something, I can’t tell you how insidious privilege is. Because I’m assuming—did you ever see John Titus, this video that he did about the Pfizer CEO? Because somebody on Fox news asked the Pfizer CEO, why he hadn’t gotten vaccinated with its own vaccination.

Greg Hunter: None of these people are.

Catherine Austin Fitts: Right That’s privilege. They believe if they play ball and get everybody else injected with the operating system that they and their families can enjoy the privilege of not having to be injected. The horrible thing about this is whatever is going on, this is being done with thousands, if not millions of humans, basically doing this. If we were to make a list of all the people who deserve to be tried for notice of liability—who deserve a notice of liability under the Nuremberg code, it’s a big group, Greg.

Greg Hunter: But there ought to be new Nuremberg trials over this. And our Congress people are absolutely ignorant and stupid. You had Jim Jordan who had Fauci in front of him and I’d asked him, Dr. Fauci why aren’t we using Ivermectin early on? It is proven to work. Why are we not using it? Why do we kill hydroxychloroquine and zinc and ivermectin? Why did we do that? Was that to give a liability to the drug companies to have a human drug trial with zero liability? They don’t ask those questions. Why aren’t we using ivermectin? Which is supposed to work even better than hydroxychloroquine and zinc. They don’t ask those questions.

Catherine Austin Fitts: I don’t know. I tried to watch—a couple of people sent me the back and forth between Jordan and Fauci and it I couldn’t understand why Jordan wasn't asking the real questions....

You have to build on things that last. What does scripture say? And now abideth, faith, hope and love. But the greatest of these is love. So one of my favorite sermons, the pastor says, I want to focus on the word abideth. You have to build in life on things that stay, on things that are real, on things that matter.

From the moment I pulled out of Washington and decided I was going to fight on the litigation, I had a horrible experience in the Bush administration with the New York Times that persuaded me they were a criminal enterprise. Then I had a horrible experience in 1998 with the Washington Post that persuaded me they were a criminal enterprise. And I said, I want nothing to do with any of these people anymore, ever again. And I turned my back and I walked out and with rare exception, I’ve had nothing to do with them at all. Because you can’t build anything on quicksand. You don’t build a house on quicksand. You don’t build a skyscraper on quick sand. You can’t build a life on quicksand. So all of these institutions are there to promote a political agenda that supports central control....

Catherine Austin Fitts: I told you about the Family Financial Disclosure Form. One of the things that was happening was our subscribers had people in their family who wanted to take [the injection]. As an investment advisor the way I first got interested in what was happening with vaccination was I had so many families come to me who had been destroyed by vaccine injury. Not just somebody in the family being harmed by vaccine injury, but then the family being hurt financially or bankrupted by vaccine injury because a vaccine injured child can cost you over a lifetime one to five million dollars. It’s unbelievably expensive. If you have somebody who can’t be potty trained and needs to be cared for for 70 years, you’re talking about very significant financial commitments.

So we decided to take the health care proxy planning process and I will say this, I’ve seen good health care proxy planning save lives. This kind of planning makes a lot of sense for families to do. And we readapted it so that somebody who wanted to take a Covid-19 injection could prove to their family that they had done proper due diligence, that they had a logical reason for doing what they were doing, and they had provided for the insurance, healthcare, and financial resources that was necessary to make sure if they got a vaccine injury or were killed it wouldn’t bankrupt the family. It’s a due diligence and planning process that you can walk through with a family. But it has links to all of the inserts for the injections.
[in the Due Diligence section:

It has links to all of the vaccine adverse events reporting databases. And then it gives examples of all the different kinds of adverse events.

Because if you’re reading an informed consent and you hear these big Latin words, that doesn’t work the same as seeing a picture or a video of somebody who’s experiencing severe neurological damage from one of these injections. All of that is in this one document.... We’ve also done German and French translations and the Canadian Vaccine Board took the form and redid it for Canada. So that’s up at the Canadian vaccine form. If you have somebody in your family, who’s thinking of taking this injection before they do, I strongly recommend that you have the entire family walk through this process to make sure. Because if somebody takes it and then they have an adverse event or are killed the family has to be prepared to deal with that.

Greg Hunter: And better yet: you don’t need it. Top medical practitioners are saying, You Do Not Need It.

Catherine Austin Fitts: There is no medical reason to take this injection unless you want to be a guinea pig. If you want to be a guinea pig and you want to download their operating system and you want to participate with them in doing whatever they’re trying to do—I’ve had wonderful people, very intelligent people tell me that they’re thrilled they got it because now they think they’re going to be free. It’s the strangest thing. And they’ve done absolutely no due diligence. The willingness of people to put this in their veins—and this argues because as you know, I’m a Christian and I believe this is a Mark of the Beast. And one of the things I’ve discovered is if you can make the Mark of the Beast in nanoparticles that are so tiny that the human eye can’t see them, then you can slip this right by almost every pastor in the country. It’s shocking that nanotechnology can basically deliver a Mark of the Beast and the typical Christian can’t see it....

Catherine Austin Fitts: The thing is you’re watching tremendous forces globally try to centralize control of farmland and food. We just did a fabulous Solari Report. It’s a special report, which is public. Anybody can see it. The host for our food series is Pete Kennedy. He’s one of the founding attorneys for the Farm to Consumer Legal Defense Fund. He just interviewed Sally Fallon Morrell. It’s called Synthetic Food. Everybody should listen to it because I keep telling people, who’s your farmer? If you come into Solari, it says, Who’s your farmer? Who’s your sheriff? Who’s your banker? Where’s your money? You need to buy fresh local food or grow your own. You need to know where your food comes from because the day is over when you can go to just any old grocery store and think it’s safe. It’s frightening what’s happening with the food supply. I expect food prices to continue to skyrocket....
Greg Hunter: What should you do now? Don’t take the vaccine. And if you’ve taken it, don’t take the the booster or the top-up as Michael Yeadon says. That’s number one. Right? And what should people do now?

Catherine Austin Fitts: I think it’s bigger than that. The number one thing I think you need to do is you need to learn how to protect your mind from mind control. We’re in an increasingly high tech culture. And that technology is using entrainment, subliminal programming, all kinds of propaganda and disinformation. What we each need to be productive is we need our own minds and we need to be coherent. We need to think for ourselves. So the first thing I would do is I would go to Solari and put “entrainment” in the search box and start learning about what this technology is and how you protect yourself from it.... We like to make sure that all the basics are available for free....

We put up free new interviews every week. So I would start learning about entrainment. But first you need to make sure your mind is clear and coherent. The second thing you need is you need a strong body. So strong mind, strong body. And you need to take responsibility for your health. You can’t trust the healthcare system to tell you what’s good for you. Intellectually, you’re going to have to become your own doctor. And you’re really going to have to take command. That’s why we do things like the Family Financial Disclosure Form. That’s all also public and free that can help you.

I happen to believe Greg, that the greatest navigation tool ever created—and this is what I discovered during the litigation—is prayer. So if you go to Solari and put a search for our prayer books there. You can see what we do and I do with prayer and that’s free lots of free stuff.

Then finally you need to find a way to build a life and a strong financial life, a strong balance sheet and a strong income statement divorced from this establishment. You need to find a way of generating income that helps people and lift them up and builds a human culture, as opposed to depopulates people or puts poison in their veins or any of these other crazy things. Make sure you create the skills and life you need making the world a better place to be instead of making money liquidating human populations. They’re turning us into a world of tyranny. So stop making money on tyranny. Stop investing in it. Stop banking with them.

It’s shocking to me because this is all being driven by the Going Direct Reset for the central bankers. And yet the majority of Americans still bank with the owners of the central banks that are doing this. They bank with the New York Fed Member Banks who are driving this train. You name what’s going on there, the guys in charge. Why are you banking with them? There are a lot—in America, we still have a ton of great community banks and credit unions. Why are you buying these stocks? Why are you financing these people? Why are we building our own prison? Stop building your own prison. Just start doing something useful.

Greg Hunter: Go small, go local, get out of the corporate entanglement.

Catherine Austin Fitts: Right. Get the corporate guys out of your balance sheet. Get them out of your income statement. Get them out of your mind. Get them out of your body. Get them out of your money. Just get them out. I call it—if you come into Solari again—this is free—we have a wonderful piece called Coming Clean: Building a Wonderful World. It’s the 24 steps you can take to just get these guys out of your life.

“I arise today, through the strength of Heaven;
light of Sun, brilliance of Moon, splendor of Fire,
speed of Lightning, swiftness of Wind, depth of Sea,
stability of Earth, firmness of Rock.”

~ The Deer’s Cry
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