Episode 27: "The Psychiatry of COVID-19" An Interview with Dr. Emanuel Garcia
6 July 2022
https://odysee.com/@PandemicParallaxView:6/PonP-PsychiatryOfC-19-DrEmanuelGarcia-Ep27:8

Now that monkeypox has been declared a global health emergency, let's not forget how the last health "emergency" was handled. Dr. Emanuel Garcia, a New Zealand psychiatrist and medical freedom advocate who emigrated from the United States in 2006, reports on the stages of the absurd and yet all too familiar COVID response in his adopted country. 

Applying a psychiatric lens to the public health disasters of masks, lockdowns, and coerced injections, Dr. Garcia's analysis helps fortify us against the next assault on human dignity, health and freedom.


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listen i'm shocked to find out that i'm
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living
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under a totalitarian government honestly
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this is my conclusion new zealand you
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know lefty cool green clean green new
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zealand everything is great all that
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look at how they acted there was a
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second lockdown that came on the basis
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of one positive test in auckland the
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entire country got locked down
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and then as things were eased
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only in the areas around auckland
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auckland had to go through i don't know
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how many weeks of uh of absolute
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draconian lockdown
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there's a law about power power
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always seeks to augment itself power
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never says hey i've got enough i want
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less
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what they're telling you is that this
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event was so unique so transcendent that
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it that the laws of nature
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don't hold
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that is i believe what draws upon
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people's belief in miracles and magic
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their childhood wishes and all that and
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that's what really
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captures that them into submission the
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absurdities are essential
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today we're talking to dr manny garcia
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in the heart of lockdown
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new zealand though i suppose you guys
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are out of lockdown now manny if you
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could just begin by telling us a bit
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about yourself your name a little bit
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about your background and how we came to
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be talking today okay sure thank you
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very much and it's a privilege to be
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able to talk to be able to
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speak with you today
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in this series you know i've been
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following your series from the beginning
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and i remember very well
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that very first uh
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uh video with john younitus that was so
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pivotal but i am a
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a psychiatrist and a psychoanalyst i got
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my medical degree from the university of
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pennsylvania in 1986
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i practiced in psychiatry and
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psychotherapy and psychoanalysis in the
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states
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until 2006
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when i immigrated to new zealand and
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since immigrating to new zealand i
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practiced in public health psychiatry up
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until last october when i resigned
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in addition to being psychiatrists
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however i'm a writer and a
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theatrical director and occasional actor
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etc
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what happened uh in new zealand in your
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adopted country during the height of the
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pandemic how did the events unfold what
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were your first thoughts you know just
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take us through uh the history of that
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well like everybody else when when the
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story of the bat and the transmission of
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the lethal virus came out
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uh
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i was
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a little skeptical
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was concerned as well
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and then as the story gathered steam and
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as we saw pictures of the chinese
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military hosing down streets with
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chemicals and locking people up in their
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apartments
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and and everything else grew around
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kovid i became a little more worried
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not so much about the actual pathogen
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but about the response that was being
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generated by this barrage of what to me
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seemed like very clear propaganda well
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all right so we have that uh the world's
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in covid mania and new zealand decides
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to adopt a policy of uh complete
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elimination
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of the coronavirus so we went through a
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very difficult initial
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lockdown period i think it was five or
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six weeks
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which to me was hell because it was an
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absolute
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depredation of human rights and
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liberties
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it's basically the first time in history
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people have been quarantined for being
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healthy
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and imprisoned we're under uh would
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amounted to house arrest you could only
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go so far away from your house
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it was absolutely to me a nightmare but
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people were
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gathered together to
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help the cause and so everyone complied
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and with some exceptions i think the
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health minister was caught going to a
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beach at one point
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and would have been fired but for the
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emergency situation we were in
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but no it was really uh to me quite a
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terrible time that lockdown and and i
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believe
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a completely unnecessary thing so
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remember these these measures
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lockdowns the so-called social
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distancing
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and masks
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no one explained to us
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why and how they would work why they
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should work with the consequences of
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these things would be
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uh except to
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tell us to follow
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the which meant their idea of science
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it seems like there were pretty
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severe and rolling lockdowns that happen
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over time right and then there was this
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zero coveted policy that you refer to
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yeah exactly well there was a second
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lockdown that came on the basis of one
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positive test in auckland the entire
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country got locked down
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and then as things were ease
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only in the areas around auckland
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auckland had to go through i don't know
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how many weeks of uh of absolute
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draconian lockdown it was absolutely and
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again
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no scientific basis for this kind of
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thing very severe penalties for breaking
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lockdown penalties for not wearing masks
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it was actually uh
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it's hard to believe that it could
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happen in a civilized country and to
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what extent do you think uh people in
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new zealand and your colleagues you know
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other doctors scientists uh
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therapists etc what to what extent did
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they accept these uh measures as
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necessary well i'm going to backtrack a
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little bit and tell you what i did
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during the initial stages of their
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handling covet i read a lot of letters
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to the
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local papers i wrote letters to the pm
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the minister of health
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i talked about my concerns
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over the disregard of natural immunity i
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talked about my concerns over the fact
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that no one had mentioned anything about
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prevention
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or actual treatment and also about the
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uh
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the the uh invasion of our civil
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liberties now i could have been talking
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to a war for all that mattered i got no
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response from anything not one letter
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was published
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i made a few interviews with some groups
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that were beginning to question these
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things such as voices for freedom
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and that ended up earning me
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a report to the medical council for
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practicing outside my scope of
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psychiatry
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a
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very small percentage of doctors here
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have decided to stand up for what is
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really very basic common medical sense
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we've organized ourselves into ourselves
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into a group called new zealand doctors
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speaking out for science and i'm not
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sure exactly of the numbers you may have
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about 100 people or so out of eighteen
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thousand twenty thousand
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i do know that other doctors
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must understand
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that informed consent is essential
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that prevention early and treatment are
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essential parts of being a doctor and
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that science is something to be openly
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discussed not
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not have a debate shut down about it but
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these people have been silent
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so why do you think it was so easy to
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sell the coveted narrative the media
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were hammering away
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with fear
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case counts death counts
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a virus that was so lethal that
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everyone's lives would be in jeopardy
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and this went on and on and on so it's
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natural for most people who are just
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trying to make a living just trying to
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make ends meet just trying to get along
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with their lives to
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agree and comply i think that's a
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natural outcome of a barrage and that's
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a literal barrage i think there's a
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pandemic of
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naivete
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ignorance and fear what is the effect
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from a psychiatric angle of mass on
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first on adults and then on children
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you're supposed to be wearing masks when
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you enter cafe and when you order you
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take your mask off at a table you put
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your mask on when you get up to go to
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the bathroom now
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any
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rational person will understand that
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there are logical problems with the
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procedure like this
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but it's my contention and i want to get
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into this later with you john so i think
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it's very important
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that the absurdities the absurd aspects
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of these rituals are part of what keep
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people submissive and enchanted and
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engaged in all this
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all right
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what does a mask do a mask renders
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everyone in some way uniform it mass
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deprives the human being of his or her
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most expressive feature
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it makes you a digit
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uh it becomes an emblem of conformity
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and it interferes with very basic
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and important and critical human
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interaction the internet is a good
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example of mask wearing
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all these pseudonyms what does the
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internet promote it promotes people
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hiding behind a phony identity it's a
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kind of mask and they can say these
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vitriolic comments
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get rid of it be yourself
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talk openly show your face in italian
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there's a word that says the word for
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shameless is a person who
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doesn't have a face
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okay
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all right that's a shameless person
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so that's what these masks do they're
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they're really terrible
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throw them out
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how did they manage to discredit the
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idea of early treatment and these these
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who essential medicines like
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hydroxychloroquine and and ivermectin
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yeah well john this is an extremely
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central point if there was any one thing
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that convinced me we were involved in
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something that was really really
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not right it was the fact that
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early treatment
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was not only never mentioned by the
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authorities
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but they would go out of their way to
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punish people who were trying to help
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their patients now
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i'll bring up dr zolenko
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dr zelenko did heroic work but he was
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doing what every doctor in the world
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should have been doing which was let's
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figure out a way to treat people who get
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sick to prevent their going to hospital
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and to prevent them from dying
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and he devised a protocol and he divide
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another mccullough and others
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created other and pierre corey created
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other protocols as well that's what a
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doctor is supposed to do that's what i
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expected everybody would be doing one of
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the great uh motivating missions to a
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physician is hey find a cure to
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something if there's an illness or
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disease we're going to jump in we're
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going to do everything we can to help
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people
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in fact
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that was suppressed and people who tried
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to do the right thing were persecuted
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the medical council in new zealand for
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example went after anybody who spoke
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about such things by suspending their
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licenses people in australia who
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prescribe a vermectin i understand
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physicians uh could get face a jail
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sentence
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what does that tell you it tells me that
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there's another agenda tell us what it's
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like in new zealand people are losing
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their jobs how did they roll out the
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idea that you must have this vaccine and
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what what did you need it to do did you
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need it to go to restaurants did you
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need it to go to school did you need it
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to go to work how did it work in new
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zealand well there was a period where we
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had this so-called i would call it an
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apartheid period which occurred during
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that parliamentary uh occupation as well
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that protest where if you were not
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jabbed you couldn't go to a hairdresser
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you could go to the theater you couldn't
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go to a cafe you couldn't do anything
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basically i mean it's insane right
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under the mantra of protecting everybody
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else
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they brought in however these mandates
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for health practitioners meaning that if
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you were a midwife a nurse a doctor
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whatever you had to be jabbed or you
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couldn't cp patients you couldn't even
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see patients remotely
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my colleagues could do some a lot of
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their work remotely they're not allowed
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to do that it's irrational it's insane
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it's cruel and it's wrong john well
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everything everything was so confused
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about these shots they
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it was you know there was a little bit a
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lot of uncertainty there's sort of a
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cloud of uncertainty that they kind of
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pushed these things with but the the
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idea was that
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these are going to
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save lives and protect you and protect
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everybody else i mean that's what
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they're saying
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and we know from the documents pfizer
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documents and from all of the data now
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the story's over given that there is
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really wonderful treatment
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they are unnecessary to begin with
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and they have the potential to be quite
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dangerous
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so in my view
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we never even needed these things at all
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i knew these vaccines were not going to
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protect against infection and i think we
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overplayed the vaccines and it made
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people then
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worry that it's not going to protect
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against severe disease and
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hospitalization it will but let's be
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very clear
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50 of the people who died from the
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emicron surge were older vaccinated
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well i did hear i did see a report about
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excess mortality in new zealand and
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there is excess mortality that's
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occurred with these jabs uh there are a
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lot of anecdotal reports about people
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with very severe adverse reactions i've
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met a number of people
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i met a guy a maori guy good solid maori
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guy who's now confined to a wheelchair
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and
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and the adverse events are not being
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reported
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accurately and appropriately
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and
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people are
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i think are being told to turn a blind
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eye to these things
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when she was 12 years old she
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participated in the pfizer cova vaccine
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trial i wish i could show what she was
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like before all this i was the father
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of a 16 year old son we got the prize
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vaccine because i thought it was to
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protect him i thought it was
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the right thing to do
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now i go home to an empty house
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i got the second coveted shot tuesday
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and within four days i have been
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diagnosed with myocarditis
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long story short i got the johnson and
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johnson vaccine yesterday
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my lungs and body were filling up with
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blood clots and i had to get rushed to
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the emergency room i have not had any
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seizures this whole week which has been
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great you have a minimalization of the
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real consequences
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and you have the distancing of the
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government from anything that says
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there's anything negative about this
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particular policy
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there's a reason why in the hippocratic
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oath that that phrase at first do no
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harm
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is there and that's because
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it's a power situation in the situation
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of a person who's rendered
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into a helpless or subservient position
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by illness
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the healer has an immense responsibility
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and immense power and that power
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can be misused
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and it and
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exploited and that's why if if that
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power
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would not have the temptation to exploit
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that power weren't there there'd be no
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such need to take an oath like that
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but that goes right back to the very
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core
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medical tyranny may be at the very core
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of the most
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egregious and powerful misuses of power
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there is so you combine that medical
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tyranny
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the the fear of death and contagion and
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contagion played a big role
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in the
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nazi ideology about the jews for example
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remember that was a big they had cooties
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they had oak they had illnesses this is
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one reason we had to exterminate these
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people exterminate like bugs this is
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deeply embedded in the human mind this
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whole
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pandemic
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shut down the world the entire world
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just about
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very very quickly
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the end point of which for these people
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has been to push
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these jabs on everybody and i think it's
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clearly
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to control
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and
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i think
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i can't help but conclude that it's
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actually to eliminate people
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help us to urge folks and say to them
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look it's time to roll up your sleeves
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and get the shot
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and if you already have
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let's talk to somebody else we know who
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hasn't and let them know now is the time
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to get this done
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and the bottom line is that getting
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vaccinated is safe
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we i think all embrace whatever our
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background the spirit of love thy
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neighbor
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and getting vaccinated is truly an
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extension of that
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and it's about not only our neighbor
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next door
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it's about
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the man on the side of the street
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it's about seeing in the face of a
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perfect stranger
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a friend
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and interacting with them in that spirit
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the powers the deep state whatever you
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want to call them
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they need certain events to push along
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their agendas
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one such event was killing jfk another
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event was 911 and i think this event
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covid was another massive event
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and i think that
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one of the ways that they they really
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capture and
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and get people to follow and kind of
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hypnotize them
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is to create
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an event that
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has a kernel of reality and uh let me
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explain this then let's take 911 okay
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the kernel of reality there is that a
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plane hits a building and a building
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falls okay you respond in with shock
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with all with fear anxiety etc etc
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and then you find out two days later
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that in all that conflagration
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uh the passport of one of the hijackers
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is in the rubble at ground zero
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now you made to a critical thinking
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person you'd say oh wait a minute like
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me i said oh i know it's a i know
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there's something wrong about this i
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know it's a fix i know that's a the job
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you know the fix was in on this one and
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this and what their narrative is cannot
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be the whole truth
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but
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those absurdities are deliberate what
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they're telling you is that this event
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was so unique so transcendent that it
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that the laws of nature
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don't hold
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just as with the virus and a lot of
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things about the mass okay
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that is i believe what draws upon
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people's belief in miracles and magic
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their childhood wishes and all that and
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that's what really
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captures that them into submission the
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absurdities are essential it's the magic
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the miraculous supernatural aspects of
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the event that really grab people
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they're you're okay you're not gonna
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you're not gonna get covet if you have
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these vaccinations yeah hey folks guess
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you heard this morning i tested positive
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recovery
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but i've been double vaccinated double
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boosted
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symptoms are mild and uh and i really
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appreciate your increasing your concerns
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we're trying to live in a world where we
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have individual autonomy we have a sense
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of freedom
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we certainly have a right
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not to allow people to in to put
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anything into our bodies to violate our
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bodies and the state has shown it wants
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to violate that right my great fear is
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that a lot of these things are becoming
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normalized you know they're trying to
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normalize sudden adult adult death for
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example right medically you heard about
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that people dropping dead out of nowhere
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all of a sudden that's normal it's
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normal for a lot of kids that get
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strokes
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i'd like to think
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that
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in contra position to the great uh
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so-called
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great reset is going to be a great
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awakening and that enough people
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are going to be leading by example and
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enough of us are going to be standing by
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what our principles what we know our
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principles to be
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and that
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we have
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more than a glimmer of hope in the
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coming years why do you suppose new
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zealand australia
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china had such onerous lockdowns whereas
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america and in particular american
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red states our old enemies on the right
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manny they had much much less
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uh of a uh of an iron heel on their on
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the back of their neck so what do you
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think accounts for that well john i i
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was listen i'm shocked to find out that
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i'm living
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under a totalitarian government honestly
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this is my conclusion new zealand you
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know lefty cool green clean green new
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zealand everything is great and all that
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look at how they acted if nothing else
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this is the greatest litmus test in the
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world yeah china we knew about so the
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china model is the model that's been
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prevailing australia
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you know what did i know about australia
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big country tough people cowboys
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crocodile dundee and look at what they
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did to their people
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right and their doctors
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so
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totalitarian lives everywhere freedom is
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hard to maintain
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in psychological terms does is this like
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sort of the idea of a treacherous father
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figure i mean they hate to imagine that
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that daddy is going to commit
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infanticide that he would hurt his
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children if the you know the father is
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the state you know he's got to be good
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if he's not good well then where are we
22:16
it's unimaginable well let me answer
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that in a different way i mean the state
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you know you grew up you grew up in the
22:21
state and and as a child remember your
22:24
world is a world of magic food appears
22:26
you're hungry you get fed
22:28
things happen somebody can you go from
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one place to another if it's a magical
22:32
world your cognitive abilities can't
22:34
figure out how anything works
22:36
most of us in today's world
22:38
live in a world where
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it's still quite magical i'm talking to
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you 9000 miles away ask me how the
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internet works and i can say well
22:48
a signal goes from me through the thing
22:51
and some wires and maybe the satellite
22:54
and that's the internet i don't know
22:55
anything about it it might as well be
22:57
magic so the state provides roads the
23:00
internet this the safety and we're
23:03
naturally going to be absorbed into
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trusting
23:07
this authoritative entity whatever it is
23:10
and power
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there's a law about power power
23:14
always seeks to augment itself power
23:17
never says hey i've got enough i want
23:19
less
23:20
i've been trying to alert parliament
23:23
and regulators
23:25
to important new safety concerns
23:27
on behalf of everyone
23:30
but no one will even speak to us
23:34
what happened at parliament the invasion
23:36
of parliament by the new zealand storm
23:39
troopers after 21 days of that beautiful
23:44
occupation of the parliament grounds on
23:47
behalf of freedom against mandates
23:50
the day before that uh clearing out
23:53
occurred
23:54
i was going to be on a panel of with
23:56
some other lawyers and the police to
23:59
negotiate a peaceful
24:02
disassembly
24:04
at the last minute the police didn't
24:06
show up
24:08
okay
24:09
that same day i was an observer when the
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human rights commissioner held a meeting
24:14
of of a number of people including
24:16
ex-former mps and and other lawyers
24:20
and
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he he and his office did nothing
24:25
to protect the rights of the people on
24:27
parliament grounds and they had an
24:28
opportunity to do so
24:30
so that's an example of what power does
24:33
power seeks to increase its hold and to
24:35
control more and more and what happened
24:38
in the final analysis to the people
24:40
occupying the parliament grounds well
24:42
they were brutally uh cleared out an
24:44
acquaintance of mine had his hip broken
24:47
by uh police or if they were police
24:49
whoever the henchmen were
24:51
by people there
24:53
and i helped them to get into an
24:54
ambulance that day
24:56
but they were
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invaded you know forcibly removed and
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treated like uh dirt
25:04
we have been given so many lies so many
25:08
endless lies cases deaths case numbers
25:11
dangers we have been fed a diet of fear
25:15
and we have been told to obey or else
25:18
you will be punished i was at parliament
25:21
i was giving talks at parliament and not
25:23
once did any member of parliament come
25:25
down and talk to us we invited them not
25:29
once they so what are they afraid of
25:32
the science is not afraid of debate
25:34
science loves debate openness
25:36
we have to encourage openness and a
25:39
tolerance of disagreement you and i
25:41
disagree about a few things okay
25:43
i disagree with everybody about
25:45
something or other that's okay all right
25:48
openness trent openness and and human
25:51
contact these are the critical things
25:54
and beyond that underneath underneath
25:56
all that john is love it really it's a
25:57
form of love it's the good part of our
25:59
souls right we know we have evil parts
26:01
and whatnot
26:02
the loving parts have to do with human
26:04
intimacy contact openness and a sense of
26:08
and really that that basic sense of
26:10
liberty we have the ability to make
26:12
decisions for ourselves we have the
26:14
responsibility and that's a treasure to
26:17
do that